tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post4009680625075994348..comments2023-12-22T04:17:29.046-08:00Comments on Exceptionally Brash: I'm so bored with the Paleo's - Part TwoExceptionally Brashhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13177479330600606059noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-70963963958994580262011-09-05T08:54:35.185-07:002011-09-05T08:54:35.185-07:00I'll admit that in the later posts, I did scro...I'll admit that in the later posts, I did scroll through some of itsthewoo's stuff, just like I initially skipped through some of Taubes' chapters the first time around. I did read through all what she had to say on the initial food reward posts on Guyenet's blog. I do think she should put it in her own blog, and then I could read it in a more effective order than what I am finding in various comment threads.Exceptionally Brashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13177479330600606059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-43110167058546440912011-09-05T08:50:51.438-07:002011-09-05T08:50:51.438-07:00Hi Gallier2 and grass fed mamma. Thanks for visit...Hi Gallier2 and grass fed mamma. Thanks for visiting! I find it sad that it just takes a few controversies and all this hatred of fat people comes out of the woodwork. And I also object being pigeon-holed. Just because I reject Guyenet's theories does not mean I fully embrace what Taubes has to say about it. People don't seem to understand that at AHS11, Taubes attacked Guyenet's stance. It does not follow at all that if you reject one theory, you automatically have to accept any of the Taubsian alternatives. I doubt if many read the last chapters of GCBC, where he laid out several theories.Exceptionally Brashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13177479330600606059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-39895164257656735062011-09-05T07:16:43.200-07:002011-09-05T07:16:43.200-07:00Super funny and pretty accurate take! I shot that ...Super funny and pretty accurate take! I shot that video btwDebbie Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04596555525095399660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-74857510835851620582011-09-05T07:08:50.991-07:002011-09-05T07:08:50.991-07:00Ha ha, quite accurate resumé of the situation. I h...Ha ha, quite accurate resumé of the situation. I have Guyenet's blog in my rss feeder and I get all the comments and blog posts, so that even if he removes them afterwards they can still be consulted. What strikes me odd is the viciousness with which the carb-rehabilators try to defend their point. The funny part is that most low-carbers do not really object to the point they make. If you look at the Don Matesz' last meals he showed on his blog, there's nothing that would tick off an Eades, an Atkins or a Lutz. Conversly, if you look at Richard Nikoley's food-porn, there's nothing that would really put off one of the Taubes detractors. It's almost as if they forgot what the real enemy is, the SAD which is so out of whack that even deficient vegan fare represents a amelioration.<br /><br />The problem with ItstheWoo is not the content of her posts that is a problem, but the sheer size. Every comment she makes is a 4 part comment wall of text, that demand lots of effort to read. It's often interesting but even I, with my legendary patience, have to skip them regularly.gallier2https://www.blogger.com/profile/04285836062429366578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-91494438306860562122011-08-31T13:11:44.194-07:002011-08-31T13:11:44.194-07:00I told Dr. Mary Dan Eades that I just loved their ...I told Dr. Mary Dan Eades that I just loved their easy book, right on the cover it says, "The book that just tells you what to eat" or something like that. I know many who aren't interested in science. They say, "No time, just tell me what to eat." That's why I started the Quilt Cliff notes.Exceptionally Brashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13177479330600606059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-89416464566401594182011-08-31T13:08:04.592-07:002011-08-31T13:08:04.592-07:00Ha Ha! I wasn't bothered by the Woo at all be...Ha Ha! I wasn't bothered by the Woo at all because to me, the posts just read like intense frustration due to not being heard. I think many of Guyenet's homies do really think that Woo had nothing at all to add to the conversation. And that part is sad.Exceptionally Brashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13177479330600606059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-39997244000341111712011-08-31T10:55:09.020-07:002011-08-31T10:55:09.020-07:00At least Mark Sisson is always friendly and positi...At least Mark Sisson is always friendly and positive. But I can see how you'd want to get the most hardcore helpful science into the hands of others without the occasionally accompanying attitude. For me, all that matters is accuracy and honesty. In my experience, people don't even listen, let alone change, until they've already decided to -- "when the student is ready, the master will appear" kinda deal. Anyway, if Guyenet edited or deleted comments by others instead of his own posts, that's a lesser "crime", but unless the commenter in question has absolutely nothing to contribute to the discussion, it's still a non-starter in my book. And Woo definitely had less vitriol and more rationality than the supposedly sane one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-67820072393403742682011-08-31T09:56:54.666-07:002011-08-31T09:56:54.666-07:00A paleo newbie who has recently escaped from conve...A paleo newbie who has recently escaped from conventional diet thought might think they have jumped from the frying pan into the fire. It takes alot of energy to hop the fence and run from prison, but you don't want to run into more men with guns right away, at least.Exceptionally Brashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13177479330600606059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-41270933999302186442011-08-31T09:54:38.278-07:002011-08-31T09:54:38.278-07:00My main concern (and I can rant endlessly in the c...My main concern (and I can rant endlessly in the comment section of my own blog he he) is that I can't send my fat friends over to the paleo sites because of the current hostility towards fat people on low carb diets. I'm pretty mentally tough, so when someone like Dr. Harris just brushes detractors away, I can just blow it off. But, for new people who are still being scolded by others, it doesn't look good. Dr. Oz and his team have an entirely different message, but he's so nice!Exceptionally Brashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13177479330600606059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-23547101971263943692011-08-31T09:53:21.465-07:002011-08-31T09:53:21.465-07:00The paleo homies need to understand how this kind ...The paleo homies need to understand how this kind of fat trash talk affects newcomers and people who can receive the most benefit from switching to a paleo-style diet.Exceptionally Brashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13177479330600606059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-89667238472371495532011-08-31T09:48:49.373-07:002011-08-31T09:48:49.373-07:00All I know is that itsthewoo2 complained about bei...All I know is that itsthewoo2 complained about being kicked off and her posts removed. When I went back to take a look, I found lots of things removed. I also couldn't find the part where he mentioned prior dealings with Taubes. Maybe I just missed it. Personally, I think the edit gene is a good one. My beef is mainly with his homies. Guyenet has been careful to clarify certain points in later posts, and that is also a good thing.Exceptionally Brashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13177479330600606059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19636934974176166.post-62181906489812844952011-08-31T05:03:57.520-07:002011-08-31T05:03:57.520-07:00So my takeaway from this is that Guyenet pulled a ...So my takeaway from this is that Guyenet pulled a Don Matesz and significantly edited and/or deleted one of his posts without acknowledging that fact? Because that would make me instantly lose all respect and trust for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com